Eyewitnesses who saw a C-130
In this section, we collect the eyewitnesses who reported on a C-130 aircraft
which was seen following the 757 near the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.
(image source: http://www.911digitalarchive.org/images/files/161.500px.pjpeg)
Allen Cleveland of Woodbridge Virginia looked out from a Metro
train going to National Airport, to see a jet heading down
toward the Pentagon. "I thought, 'There's no landing strip
on that side of the subway tracks,' " Before he could
process that thought, he saw "a huge mushroom cloud. A lady
staThe lady next to me was in absolute hysterics."" .
. a silver pasenger jet, mid sized"
Cleveland did not see the crash, nor does he say anything specific
about the altitude, or where the train was located. The ram
file is no longer available at the link.
Soon after the crash (Within 30 seconds of the crash) I
witnessed a military cargo plane (Possibly a C130) fly over the
crash site and circle the mushroom cloud. My brother inlaw
witnessed the same plane following the jet while he was on the
HOV lanes in Springfield. He said that he saw a jetliner flying
low over the tree tops near Seminary RD in Springfield, VA. and
soon afterwards a military plane was seen flying right behind
it. I think this was also a reason for the false threat of
another plane about to crash
which caused rescuers to
have to evacuate for a short time after the initial crash. I
have done my research onthis and according to time magazine it
took 24 minutes before Norad was supposedly notified about this
particuliar jet and fighters were scrambling to intercept at
that time. Isn't it odd how there is Not a single mention of
this aircraft in ANY of the articles written about this crash?
Also if you had not noticed... There is not a single picture or
live footage of the actual jet prior to its crash at the
Pentagon. Nor is there any of the one that crashed in
Pennsylvania. But if Anyone who rides the metro-rail knows,
there are plenty of Video cameras all around National airport at
the parking Garages and the high level security buildings found
all around Crystal city. (3 of which I have personally found
pointed directly towards crystal city which would have given a
great line of site shot of that jet prior to the crash as well
as any other plane which might have been following it. I
personally believe that the government new full well that this
was about to happen and they are hiding something a lot bigger
than they are willing to let out. I was interviewed at
Washingtonpost.com and gave them my full story, but they did not
print it as I have told you. I also find it interesting that one
of the planes engines in the pennsylvania crash was supposedly
found 5 miles prior to the crash site (This information I'm
unsure of). The only thing that I'm aware of that might cause
that would be a heat seeking missle. A weapon which I am pretty
familiar with form Ord.training. I'm not saying that the
government new exactly what was about to happen, but I do
believe that they are definitely hiding something here. Many of
my friends in intelligence have said the same. I work in a Gov.
building in DC., but my heart is right there with you and your
team. I hope you and those who served with you are doing well.
Spooky8 is a website owned by Bob King, author of a book by
that same title, who claims that he was a bodyguard, law
enforcement officer and part-time member of a paramilitary team
that carried out "covert missions around the world" (at
least until recently, when he became an author and
screenwriter.) Cleveland's post is no longer available at
Cleveland doesn't tell us much about himself, other than that
he works in a Government building and that he has "friends in
This post is one of only two which suggests that the C-130 was
following the 757 at a similar (tree-top) altitude.
"It was a 757 out of Dulles, which had come up the river in
back of our building, turned sharply over the Capitol, ran past
the White House and the Washington Monument, up the river to
Rosslyn, then dropped to treetop level and ran down Washington
Boulevard to the Pentagon (...) As we watched the black plume
gather strength, less than a minute after the explosion, we saw
an odd sight that no one else has yet commented on. Directly in
back of the plume, which would place it almost due west from our
office, a four-engine propeller plane, which Ray later said
resembled a C-130, started a steep decent towards the
. It was coming from an odd direction (planes
don't go east-west in the area), and it was descending at a much
steeper angle than most aircraft. Trailing a thin, diffuse black
trail from its engines, the plane reached the Pentagon at a low
altitude and made a sharp left turn, passing just north of the
plume, and headed straight for the White House. All the while, I
was sort of talking at it: "Who the hell are you? Where are
you going? You're not headed for downtown!" Ray and Verle
watched it with me, and I was convinced it was another attack.
But right over the tidal basin, at an altitude of less than 1000
feet, it made another sharp left turn to the north and climbed
rapidly. Soon it was gone, leaving only the thin black trail.
According to Cook's narrative, he was working on a FAIR report for
the OMB on 9/11/2001, which means he must be employed by an
executive agency of the Bush administration. Aside from this
potential conflict of interest, his account seems very credible.
The crew of a military cargo plane watched helplessly on Sept.
11 as a hijacked airliner plunged into the Pentagon, a defense
official confirmed Tuesday. The report confirms the eyewitness
account of two Hampton Roads residents who were near the
Pentagon that day and said they saw a second plane flying near
the doomed passenger jet. A C-130 cargo plane had departed
Andrews Air Force Base en route to Minnesota that morning and
reported seeing an airliner heading into Washington 'at an
unusual angle,' said Lt. Col. Kenneth McClellan, a Pentagon
spokesman. Air-traffic control officials instructed the
propeller-powered cargo plane 'to let us know where it's going,'
McClellan said. But, he said, there was no attempt to intercept
the hijacked airliner. 'A C-130 obviously goes slower than a
jet,' McClellan said. 'There was no way he was going to
intercept anything.' The C-130 pilot 'followed the aircraft and
reported it was heading into the Pentagon,' he said. 'He saw it
crash into the building. He saw the fireball. In the days
immediately following the Sept. 11 hijackings, the Pentagon had
no knowledge of the C-130's encounter, because all reports were
classified by the Air National Guard, the Pentagon spokesman
said. 'It was very hard to get any information out,' McClellan
said. ("C-130 crew saw Pentagon strike, official
confirms", Terry Scanlon et David Lerman, Daily Press, 17
octobre 2001) -
Pentagon confirms local reports of the C-130.
Rodriguez' comments are no longer available at any of the three
links. Newsbytes is a website of the Washington Post; the
other two websites are the same ones used by
Does Rodriguez have the same brother-in-law as Cleveland?
Note the identical wording.
There is no doubt in my mind that last week's attack on America
was an act of war. I fought in the Gulf War. I saw bombs and
missiles explode overhead. I saw people die. And when, on my way
to work Sept. 11, I saw an American Airlines jet come overhead
and slam into the Pentagon, it all came back. Hard. I was
sitting in heavy traffic in the I-395 HOV lanes about 9:45 a.m.,
directly across from the Navy Annex. I could see the roof of the
Pentagon and, in the distance, the Washington Monument. I heard
the scream of a jet engine and, turning to look, saw my driver's
side window filled with the fuselage of the doomed airliner. It
was flying only a couple of hundred feet off the ground - I
could see the passenger windows glide by. The plane looked as if
it were coming in for a landing - cruising at a shallow angle,
wings level, very steady. But, strangely, the landing gear
was up and the flaps weren't down
. I knew what was about to
happen, but my brain couldn't quite process the information.
Like the other commuters on the road, I was stunned into
disbelief. The fireball that erupted upon impact blossomed
skyward, and the blast hit us in a wave. I don't remember
hearing a sound. It was so eerily similar to another
experience during the Gulf War - a missile strike that killed a
Marine in my unit
- that when I jumped out of my SUV, I felt
like I'd jumped into my past and was in combat once again. The
feeling was the same, but the context was all wrong. (...) What
if 'dash two' was inbound to the Pentagon? Then a gray
C-130 flew overhead, setting off a new round of panic
I tried to reassure people that the plane was not a threat. All
around me people began to panic, fleeing for their lives. Afraid
of being trapped, I drove through a gap in the median barrier
and drove across 395 to an exit ramp.
Thompson discusses the Gulf War in terms that indicate he may be
suffering some post-traumatic stress. However, his account
generally seems quite credible. He does not claim to have
seen the impact of the 757 at the Pentagon. He does not
specify the altitude of the C-130.
Her brother, [Keith Wheelhouse], of Virginia Beach, spotted the
planes first. The second plane looked similar to a C-130
transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly
above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes
from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet
toward the Pentagon.
Daily Press; Newport News; Sep 14, 2001; TERRY SCANLON
The article is no longer available at Indymedia. From this
excerpt, it's not clear whether the woman being quoted actually
claims to have seen the C-130.